The Death of Captain Cook, February 14, 1779, colorized:
Has anyone reblogged exactly why kanaka maoli killed the settler colonizer Cook yet? He did fucked up shit other than kidnapping the sovereign leader or chief too.
I paraphrased the why by fellow Indigenous Pasifika before on Twitter before it became x and the account was deactivated
Slutshaming women is not ok
Slutshaming Alexander Hamilton is totally ok
Tumblr logic
he cheated. on his wife.
he’s also been dead for several hundred years this is the funniest post ive ever read in my life
fave things about this post:
the idea that thousands of people are calling alexander hamilton a slut
calling any founding father a slut
the idea that people are SHAMING Alexander Hamilton for being Such A Slut he is being SHAMED for being such a naughty little tart, SPREADING HIS LEGS FOR EVERYONE IN CONGRESS
that this was probably prompted by people expression dissaproval for Alexander Hamilton cheating on his wife – that the OP thinks “slut shaming” and “Isnt it gross that he cheated on his wife” are the same thing
Alexander Hamilton has been dead for 210
210 slutty, slutty years
the way that this is presented in such a CHECKMATE SJWS way when they’re talking about a founding father who cheated on his wife and has been DEAD FOR 210 YEARS
the fact that the words “Slutshaming” and “Alexander Hamilton” have been used in the same sentence
i mean just apply what we’d traditionally think of as “slut shaming” to Alexander Hamilton.
His frock coat is too tight, his breaches are so short, have you SEEN how often he powders his wig??? I heard he gave Thomas Jefferson a handy behind the stables AND that he got fingered by John Hancock
i literally love when people realize positive reinforcement works like yes its so silly isnt it. but it literally works humans love juice reward too
Back in grad school I TA’d a couple 400 level courses on stone tool production and zooarchaeology that involved a lot of technical memorization that required the students to learn complex terminology very quickly. They were two of the only such undergrad courses the program had (I think the third was Mesoamerican Pottery, and there was a grad course on Human Osteology), so none of them would have encountered much if any of this info in the two years since their first intro courses. There were over a dozen quizzes in each course, nearly one a week, and the grades were known to be abysmally low compared to the lab reports because of how much time you needed to spend in the lab handling the material in order to study for it.
I like being paid to have fun, so I bought some Transformers stickers and put one on every quiz that got over 90% (ie. the ‘A’ range). Any quiz that got an A+ got Optimus Prime himself. B grades still got a “good job!!” and any passing grade at all got a smiley face, but no sticker.
Y’all, 4th year arky courses are FULL of nerds. The MINUTE the first quizzes were handed back they went nuts over the stickers. There were stars in their eyes, they were crowing in excitement. These were students in their mid-twenties. Only one person got an Optimus Prime on that quiz, and when I told them the sticker rubrick and the requirements to get Optimus you could practically see the fire it lit. They would get those stickers. Optimus Prime was going to be theirs.
I fucking ran out of stickers TWICE throughout those courses. I had to go and buy whole packs JUST TO HAVE ENOUGH OPTIMUSES (Optimi?) for all the A+ quizzes that came in every time. That meant i had more generic TF stickers to promote the B grade papers to stickerdom. The materials lab was full of students every week, studying for these quizzes. They hyped each other up for them. They petitioned me to sticker their lab reports and final projects too (of course I did).
The prof, a delightful 80-something socks-and-sandals hippy of a guy who supervised my honours thesis, was fucking beside himself over this. He thought it was the best thing ever. He joked that the marks that semester were so abnormally high that he needed to look over the tests himself in case I was going too easy on them (I wasn’t, those TF stickers were expensive). He had to look over them anyway in case *I* made a technical mistake grading them, which meant he was the first to see the stickers each time XD
Anyway, it’s true. I’ve yet to meet an adult who didn’t enjoy a sparkly sticker reward.
I thought it was fairly normal to feel empathy for bad people.
I thought it was common, even.
But after my Elon/Grimes post… now I’m wondering if I was mistaken about that.
I wrote a post about Trump being traumatized after his assassination attempt and a post about his poor adaptation to aging. I expressed sympathy for him in both cases. But I still maintain my white hot hatred of him and wish for him to face consequences.
Elon was abused by his father. Some of the stories are incredibly tragic. Hearing those stories triggers an involuntary response in my emotional systems that I can’t stop no matter how much I despise present-day Elon. I also wonder if that abuse never occurred maybe we wouldn’t be dealing with this current clusterfuck.
I have never held so much anger towards a single person as I do my brother. But I also see him as a victim of abuse. I know he was once a really good person and he was slowly corrupted. I feel sorry for him. I mourn the amazing person he used to be. And I still love him.
But that doesn’t make me any less angry.
I honestly think it’s incredibly important for us to understand the people who are bastards who seek to ruin lives. Hitler as a kid wanted to care for his mom who was dying of cancer. Understanding that pain and even relating to it is important for us to not lose the value that they are human. Making them into monsters puts to much space between reality. And he deserved what he got, if not more.
They can be an enemy you want to see destroyed. That you do not want any positivity towards. I think what happens here is that sometimes understanding the tragedies an absolutely right bastard has experienced; threatens their “righteousness of anger.” I, personally, do not think because I have context around another person’s life it invalidates my own hatred of them. For some though that flexibility is difficult to come to terms with so they lash out.
if you have any empathy for these people ur literally compliant in what they’re doing. i don’t care that they had a “shitty home life” and they just need a hug from their dad to feel all better. they’re sick horrible people who are willing to DESTROY AND END the lives of thousands to add another dollar to their billions
I want to start by saying this was incredibly hurtful.
I really think you need to read what I wrote again because you grossly misunderstood it. Especially the “hatred” and “consequences” part. I can tell you for certain I am still wishing that bullet didn’t just graze Trump’s ear.
The absolute gall to tell people they aren’t allowed to have emotional responses. How do I stop an involuntary emotion? What magic technique do you have because I’d love to end my depression and anxiety right now.
Errol Musk raised a stepdaughter, then impregnated her, and then married her. He literally drove his current wife to preschool and she called him “Dad”.
Here is a recent quote from him.
Imagine being raised by that.
This awful person created another awful person. It’s tragic. It’s sad. And it makes me feel bad.
Understanding the reason someone turned into a monster is useful. This tells me we need to do a better job of protecting children or else we are going to keep making new Elons.
it’s useful, and it’s good to understand, but it’s also important not to humanize these people when they won’t hesitate a single moment to destroy thousands of lives
I think most of us can agree that evil is born from trauma and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. But the reason we call it evil is that at no moment and in no way it should be justified by our society and collective conscious as
And as cruel as that sounds, there are important reasons for this. It because evil won’t hesitate to dismantle said society, conscious and it’s values from within
This is also called the tolerance paradox. It’s an important observation that was born from the aftermath of WW2
Some things should be dehumanized and given no tolerance, to keep them from spreading
It’s possible we are working off different definitions of “humanize” but I think there is nothing more human than stupidity, ignorance, and hurting others. Elon is just a human. He is fueled by trauma and ketamine abuse and is lashing out at the world. He desperately wanted people to like him but wasn’t willing to put in the work to be remotely likable. Plenty of people overcome their trauma and make the effort to defy their poor upbringing. Elon made a different choice. And he is responsible for that choice. No awful childhood can justify his actions.
I see the lack of humanization as a much larger problem for conservatives. They have taken away Elon and Trump’s status as human beings and elevated them to gods. Elon is an infallible Tech Jesus capable of bending all machines to his will. And Trump is the Grand Business Genius who thinks 90 steps ahead and is playing 8D chess to save our country from immigrants and people with pronouns.
I wish people from that side would humanize them more and see they are flawed, pathetic, and despicable. They are squishy sacks of meat like the rest of us.
I will never excuse their actions or decisions. I consider them well beyond redemption. And I wish every day they never existed.
This is probably a semantic debate. I think we are all on the same page that these people suck and need to go right fucking now.
I actually don’t think this is a semantic debate, I think that Frogman is right and “it’s important not to humanize people who won’t hesitate to (effectively) kill people” is, no shit, protofascist ideology.
No matter how awful, how violent, how genocidal, how “evil” someone is, you have to remember that people are human. You have to treat them as humans, as rational actors who are doing things that they believe will achieve their goals, that their goals are founded in a desire to see *their* version of a better world and not out of some abstract demonic drive to be evil.
The second to last poster is fundamentally understanding the paradox of tolerance in a way that would almost be funny if it wasn’t so fucking dangerous. One of the attitudes that you absolutely cannot tolerate if you want the world to be a better place is the dehumanizing of you enemies.
You can’t do this because it’s saying “there is a version of the world in which it is correct to treat some people as other-than-human, and the rules that apply to humans (the right to a fair trial, freedom from cruel and unusual punishment, etc.) do not apply to those people.”
And that means you’re saying there are conditions in which people *can* lose those rights and that’s where the whole thing starts. “People who hurt children don’t deserve rights/kill all pedophiles > the LGBTQIAs are trying to recruit your kids > queers are all pedophiles because they want to recruit and destroy your kids > trans people don’t deserve rights.” “Terrorists don’t deserve rights > all Arabs are terrorists > you can’t do war crimes against a population with no civilians > gazans as young as 4 are hamas > it’s not a war crime to bomb a hospital it’s a legitimate attack against a terrorist stronghold.” “Criminals have violated the law and don’t deserve the same rights as the rest of us > crossing the border without permission from our government is a crime > all undocumented migrants are criminals > it’s okay to separate criminals from their families and put them in cages and offshore prisons”
Elon Musk is a shitty, shitty person but by dehumanizing him, by refusing to recognize that he is just as human (with dreams, hopes, trauma, longing, love, fear, and family) as you are, you are trying to differentiate him from you. You are trying to say “that’s not human. That’s not like me, I’m not like that, that’s a monster and monsters don’t deserve to be treated like people.”
And people who think that way are very good at finding monsters. Maybe the monsters who don’t deserve rights are all the Republicans in congress. Maybe the monsters are all the pardoned J6ers. Maybe the monsters are all republicans generally. Maybe it’s everyone who *tolerates* republicans so it’s everyone in red states. And that’s how you get people saying “they fucking deserved it” after the Texas freeze the same way people are saying “they fucking deserved it” after the LA fires. “Suck it up, that’s what happens when you vote for [my political opponents], you deserve what’s coming to you because you’re all monsters.”
The worst person you can think of, the most genocidal dictator, the most vile racist supporter of apartheid, the most prolific murderer – these are all humans, they are not special, they are not unique, and you would do well to remember it because you’re not special either. It’s imperishable to recognize the humanity of those people because to do so is to recognize that NOT being like that is a choice. YOU could become like them. YOU could do some great harm in the name of your best vision of the future.
Look around at the world right now. Look at the online crackdowns on queer expression, on trans joy. Do you know how we got to a place where it’s easy to ban and hide and silence trans women in the name of “content violations”? It’s because of a bill meant to protect children from being sexually abused. “Of course I support SESTA/FOSTA, I’m not a monster like those pervert freaks, nobody has to tolerate sex on their platforms” – one of the major, major tools that is being used to silence, isolate, and harass queer people online was voted in by Bernie Sanders and Kamala Harris.
We have to recognize the humanity of the people who do awful things because it is a vital reminder that we, humans, maybe even good people, can easily do awful things ourselves.
Anyway. Absolutely bugfuck insane that “it’s important not to humanize bad people” is a take that people will say out loud in 2025.
There are people who are decrying the attack on USAID who have loudly and proudly said that Florida doesn’t deserve hurricane relief because of its abortion ban. “Florida doesn’t care about women so I don’t care about Florida.” Great! Cool! That’s the exact same logic used by Trump to withdraw from the WHO.
hey, trans men. especially the younger ones. I love when you embrace the grungy teenage dirtbag aesthetic, I think it’s very cool. love that you’re not holding yourselves to societal standards of what it means to be a real man and you decide what your own masculinity looks like. thats wonderful. but you cant reclaim “incel”. stay away from that word.
i know time moves fast and some of you might be too young to remember, but incel doesn’t just mean “loser who can’t get a date” incels were the very beginning of the alt right movement. we’re taking about men who are violently misogynistic and racist. they fantasized about rape and mass murder to punish the girls that wouldn’t date them, and many of them did it. these are men that believed in eugenics, and thought their skull shape was the reason women wouldn’t date them, or that women were subhuman animals that only view things from an evolutionary perspective of who would make an ideal “mate”.
“but i can reclaim a term used against men” you do not want to reclaim a name that a group of bigots gave to themselves. incels came up with the word “incel” and proudly wore that title. you cant call yourself an incel and expect the meaning to change and for people to not make assumptions about your values based on that word. this is not a term you want to associate with when you talk about embracing your masculinity as a transgender man, okay?
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